How Scientology Works 21- Am I happy? - alt.religion.scientology

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Más opciones 8 nov 2009, 02:07

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De: Slarty <thaddeus.sl...@gmail.com>

Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:07:57 -0800 (PST)

Local: Dom 8 nov 2009 02:07

Asunto: Re: How Scientology Works 21- Am I happy?

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On Nov 7, 8:05 am, Richard Ford <doorman.f...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Scientologists are discouraged from asking the one question that
> everyone should ask. Are they happy?

Where did you get that idea. Especially in the freezone, I don't
think that true.

> Scientologists are directed to the Tone Scale where they are asked to
> mesure themselves against a list of temporary states (such as anger or
> covert hostility).

Not so. People have a chronic tone, and the data of the hubbard chart
of human evaluations data's judgements are based solely or @ least
mostly on chronic tones (that's my opinion, but I think it deducable,
if not stated outrite in SOS). My own observations have gotten to the
point that I'm almost positive hubbard was correct about tone,
generally, if not on every single point.

This gets the individual nice and introverted so

> that he is constantly looking at his mental state rather than
> considering the larger questions.

1st, what larger issues? 2nd; Your wrong. Scientologists should
never introvert except to accomplish tasks in that state they've
reason to beleive they can accomplish. Thats fundamental to the
nature of scientology, dianetics and auditing.

> The moment a person asks themselves if they are happy, they begin to
> consider their life as a whole. There is no way to tell where such an
> enquiry may lead.

A person may start by realising that they are

> unhappy- and then go on to question their entire belief system- maybe
> even leaving the cult.

That might happen in the church, but it is against everything hubbard
wrote...anybody got any source refs to contradict me?

> It is far better (from their point of view) to keep a person
> distracted with their ever changing moods. There is even a drill by
> which a person is asked to assume a position on the tone scale at
> will. The PC is asked to assume a tone of cheerfulness (for example)
> and they do so.

Maby. The idea is that short of ridding 1self of the bank, the best
we can do is improve self control.

> This (sort of) works. The PC often beleves that he is learning a
> useful skill and will no longer be beaten down by life.

You seem pretty caught up in things a person MIGHT think. I've a hard
time thinking of things a person couldn't think, nd therefore think a
person might think just about anything.

> In reality he is simply disconnecting with his true nature and
> feelings. He becomes so used to pretending that he no longer knows
> what he truely thinks or feels about anything. A sense of desperation,
> phonyness and emptyness develops and hollows out the personality. This
> is actually a form of depression but it is usually covered up by a
> brittle and slightly hysterical show of certanty.

> A person (not only Scientologists) may seem quite happy. They may be a
> dutiful father, mother, employee and citisen. They have a good word
> for everyone and then one morning they blow their brains out. It is
> only then that most people realise they never really knew them. The
> real problem was not sorrow but inauthenticity. The person was living
> a lie and no longer even knew who they were.

> The suicide rate among Scientologists seems to be quite high.

For this you offer WHAT evedence?

One

> reason may be the lack of authenticity within the group. Many
> Scientologists act the role of Scientologists as if they were trying
> to obliterate themselves.

> The first step towards freedom and integrity is to ask meaningful
> questions.

> The real question is not 'which Scientology certificates do I hold?'

> The real question is 'am I happy?

I didn't really begin to understand scientology/hubbardian thought
untill out of the church for about 5 years now I do. I'm glad I do.
I'm glad I was given such excellant instruction, by a western fat
chain-smoking Master of fundamental data the human race neeeds to
have, and that many of it's members still don't. (Thanks Ron!)

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