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Voltaire's Child  
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 Más opciones 7 nov 2009, 11:22
Grupos de noticias: alt.religion.scientology
De: "Voltaire's Child" <galgon...@gmail.com>
Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 08:22:21 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 11:22
Asunto: Re: Why Scientology is *never* mentioned re Losing Weight
On Nov 7, 10:55 am, "Voltaire's Child" <Voltaires_Ch...@ymail.com>
wrote:

> "Eldon" <EldonB...@aol.com> wrote in message

> news:2b812c33-c474-4f27-833e-d7f6b4ebfb74@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 6, 3:33 pm, "Voltaire's Child" <Voltaires_Ch...@ymail.com>
> wrote:

> > Hubbard pretty well projected his own situation on his health
> > pronouncements for others.
> > Consider that he was a chain smoker all his adult life. That's an
> > addiction that tends to keep weight down. Ditto for the amphetamines
> > he used. Yet he steadily gained weight as he aged. All those rum 'n'
> > Coke calories might have had something to do with it.

> I don't think he ever really paid much attention to health. I think he was
> very self indulgent.

> > He did have a "high survival dynamic," considering how extensively he
> > abused his body before he croaked.

> This could be said of a lot of people, junkies, alkies, and so on.

> > But I don't think he could ever
> > confront practicing the restraint needed to achieve a healthy
> > lifestyle.

> I don't think so, either.

> >Back in the 1970s, he became an admirer of Adelle Davis (one of his
> > few attributions) and endorsed her advice that megadoses of vitamins
> > could fix lots of ailments.

> Yep, did know about that. He did say she had a big hole in her books...can't
> remember now what that was supposed to be.

> > That may be part of the reason so many
> > fringe alternative health practitioners -- Naturorpaths,
> > Kinesiologists, Chiropractors and so on -- are Scientologists. Later,
> > he "researched" and released the bogus and potentially dangerous
> > Purification Rundown (see the medical and pharmacy malpractice
> > convictions in the recent French trial).

> Sure.

> > Yet for RPFers and downstat Sea Org members, he prescribed the rice
> > 'n' beans diet, a sure prescription for malnutrition unless it
> > includes some veggies and a salad on the side, which I strongly doubt.
> > Oh, and for babies, barley water instead of breast milk.

> I remember seeing a reference or two that said that was good for kids, yes.
> I don't recall his saying it was better than breast milk but it's been a
> while since I saw that reference.

> The rice and beans diet has the advantage in that it's cheap. Don't you know
> that slaves of an uncaring juggernaut have to be fed cheap- and not well?
> LOL!

> > Even today, most Scientology staff members (like most other mentally
> > ill people) smoke cigarettes because LRH did and said the "nicotinic
> > acid" in tobacco prevents cancer.

> What I saw was that as society started encouraging people to stop smoking, I
> saw less and less staff and public in cofS smoke.  My opinion was that the
> ratio of smokers to non smokers there was probably almost the same as it was
> outside CofS and scn.

> > Just about everything he said about health was a lie.

> Well, there's the pep bulletin but it's pretty vague.

> > Well, maybe
> > there were a few borrowed half-truths about psychosomatic illness in
> > Dianetics. But it was all downhill from there.

> I kind of like what he has to say about those things but they are not a
> substitute for care of one's body. People in the church justify
> backburnering or even just not implenting care of one's health, they're
> suspicious of doctors and so on and they're prone to quack remedies like
> super blue green algae (my brother in law, a non Scn'ist, but a cultie
> member of The Farm commune was also into that). I do see some FZers getting
> into some of that, but not as a substitute for nutrition, more as an
> adjunct. I think there's too much conspiracy "what the medical establishment
> is hiding from you" think amongst all sorts of Scn'ists, church and FZ
> alike, personally.

> C

OMG , smoking as a chimney is not any better .... ALL your family is
freaks

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