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Astrid  
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 Más opciones 7 nov, 09:52
Grupos de noticias: alt.religion.scientology
De: Astrid <Astrid7777...@yahoo.com>
Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 06:52:26 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 09:52
Asunto: NY Times article on Scientology
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/nyregion/08critic.html

In Scientology’s Door, but Not Much Farther by Ariel Kaminer

This is a mildly sardonic puff piece where the writer tells her story
of showing up at the NY Org, as if interested in becoming a member or
finding out more information, and when they ask her what she does, she
tells them "writer."

She even ends up giving them her real name at one point, and they
google her, and that's that. Makes me think, maybe she should have
googled THEM, before writing this piece.

Write comments folks!


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Tigger  
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 Más opciones 7 nov, 10:02
Grupos de noticias: alt.religion.scientology
De: Tigger <Tiggerinthe...@webtv.net>
Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:02:15 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 10:02
Asunto: Re: NY Times article on Scientology
On Nov 7, 8:52 am, Astrid <Astrid7777...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/nyregion/08critic.html

> In Scientology’s Door, but Not Much Farther by Ariel Kaminer

> This is a mildly sardonic puff piece where the writer tells her story
> of showing up at the NY Org, as if interested in becoming a member or
> finding out more information, and when they ask her what she does, she
> tells them "writer."

> She even ends up giving them her real name at one point, and they
> google her, and that's that. Makes me think, maybe she should have
> googled THEM, before writing this piece.

> Write comments folks!

LOL and don't forget the advice she gives at the end.

Quote:

Perhaps the very nice people I met along the way will now dismiss me
as one of the manipulators, in league with price-fixing bankers. Or
perhaps they still view me as a potential member. For anyone who’s
curious, the doors are open 9 a.m. to 10 p.m., seven days a week. Just
be careful what you sign.

End of Quote

City Critic - Getting in the Door at the Church of Scientology, but
Not Much Farther - NYTimes.com
Email: citycri...@nytimes.com

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/nyregion/08critic.html

Reminds me of my visit to a San Francisco mission in 1992 except I
flew the dungeon before they could con me into buying a correspondence
course, although I think they were about ready to kick this
"obnoxio9us" Okie to the curb.

Tigger


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Eldon  
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 Más opciones 7 nov, 10:54
Grupos de noticias: alt.religion.scientology
De: Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com>
Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:54:29 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 10:54
Asunto: Re: NY Times article on Scientology
On Nov 7, 3:52 pm, Astrid <Astrid7777...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/nyregion/08critic.html

> In Scientology’s Door, but Not Much Farther by Ariel Kaminer

> This is a mildly sardonic puff piece where the writer tells her story
> of showing up at the NY Org, as if interested in becoming a member or
> finding out more information, and when they ask her what she does, she
> tells them "writer."

> She even ends up giving them her real name at one point, and they
> google her, and that's that. Makes me think, maybe she should have
> googled THEM, before writing this piece.

> Write comments folks!

LOL! She was interrogated by John Carmichael.
-----
While I pondered this paradox, the instructors exchanged a few
whispers, then asked everyone to leave for a short break. As they
exited, a man in a tan suit entered, and extended his hand to me. He
was the president of the New York chapter. Apparently while I had been
studying, someone had been Googling. He complimented me on my articles
in The New York Times. And my adventure in the press-shy Church of
Scientology came to a halt.
-----

He smelled reporter!


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Android Cat  
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 Más opciones 7 nov, 11:08
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De: "Android Cat" <androidca...@hotmail.com>
Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:08:53 -0500
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 11:08
Asunto: Re: NY Times article on Scientology

Astrid wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/nyregion/08critic.html

> In Scientology’s Door, but Not Much Farther by Ariel Kaminer

> This is a mildly sardonic puff piece where the writer tells her story
> of showing up at the NY Org, as if interested in becoming a member or
> finding out more information, and when they ask her what she does, she
> tells them "writer."

> She even ends up giving them her real name at one point, and they
> google her, and that's that. Makes me think, maybe she should have
> googled THEM, before writing this piece.

> Write comments folks!

*sigh* It seems that every noob reporter, starting out on doing a story
about Scientology, seems compelled to drop in on the local org in exactly
the same way.

--
Ron of that ilk.


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realpch  
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 Más opciones 7 nov, 12:54
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De: realpch <real...@aol.com>
Fecha: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:54:25 -0800
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 12:54
Asunto: Re: NY Times article on Scientology

They pretty much assumed that no good would come of a reporter taking
courses. They may be correct!

Peach
--
Extra! Extra! Read All About It!
Save some dough, save some grief:
http://www.xenu.net
http://www.scientology-lies.com


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Eldon  
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 Más opciones 7 nov, 12:58
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De: Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com>
Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:58:41 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 12:58
Asunto: Re: NY Times article on Scientology
On Nov 7, 6:54 pm, realpch <real...@aol.com> wrote:

Yes they may. See my comment regarding Richard Behar.

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Eldon  
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 Más opciones 7 nov, 13:00
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De: Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com>
Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:00:56 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 13:00
Asunto: Re: NY Times article on Scientology
On Nov 7, 6:58 pm, Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com> wrote:

P.S. My comment is still in the moderation hopper, but I could see it,
so here it is:

No surprise. Scientology has always been suspicious of journalists. In
fact, back in 1991, they went after Richard Behar with a vengeance.
See:
www.lermanet.com/scientologyscandals/behar.htm


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xenufrance  
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 Más opciones 7 nov, 13:22
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De: "xenufrance" <xenufra...@free.fr>
Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:22:39 +0100
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 13:22
Asunto: Re: NY Times article on Scientology

"Eldon" <EldonB...@aol.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
e73117e6-7d2f-4bbe-9ab9-9a88565ae...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 7, 6:58 pm, Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com> wrote:

P.S. My comment is still in the moderation hopper, but I could see it,
so here it is:

No surprise. Scientology has always been suspicious of journalists. In
fact, back in 1991, they went after Richard Behar with a vengeance.
See:
www.lermanet.com/scientologyscandals/behar.htm

<<<<<<I fear that if reporters would ever become "That", they'd become "PR
Officers, -- that's the main word used in the crime cult for Paid Liars.

r


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Hartley Patterson  
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 Más opciones 7 nov, 14:11
Grupos de noticias: alt.religion.scientology
De: Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:11:09 -0000
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 14:11
Asunto: Re: NY Times article on Scientology
androidca...@hotmail.com says:

> *sigh* It seems that every noob reporter, starting out on doing a story
> about Scientology, seems compelled to drop in on the local org in exactly
> the same way.

It even mentions 'hints about its supernatural teachings', as if we didn't
all have Avagrams framed on our walls claiming copyright on them.

--
"and the best part is that when they make it into
a movie, all of the stars can play themselves."
http://www.newsfrombree.co.uk/stolgy_0.htm


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Skipper  
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 Más opciones 7 nov, 14:22
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De: Skipper <skipSPAMpr...@yahoo.not>
Fecha: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:22:23 -0800
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 14:22
Asunto: Re: NY Times article on Scientology
In article <4af5baef$0$2751$426a7...@news.free.fr>, xenufrance

That's probably because of that time when Elwrong produced the first
"clear" onstage at the Shrine Auditorium in L.A. back in Dianetic$ days
and a reporter asked the woman who supposed had perfect recall what
color tie Elwrong was wearing (he was out of sight) and she couldn't.

Suspicious, nothing, afraid of being found out. They even played on
that when Elwrong propagated that story of Tony Hitchman being a
journalist interviewing him on camera (they showed that thing forever
in introductory lectures), when all along that scumbag Hitchman (who
skipped out to South Africa when Reed Slatkin got busted) was on
Elwrong's payroll.


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Tigger  
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 Más opciones 7 nov, 14:26
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De: Tigger <Tiggerinthe...@webtv.net>
Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:26:54 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 14:26
Asunto: Re: NY Times article on Scientology
On Nov 7, 12:00 pm, Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com> wrote:

I met Richard Behar at the 1992 CAN Conference and heard him give that
speech.
Good thing I transferred it from a video to a cassette and typed and
posted it to a.r.s. so Arnaldo could web it, eh?


LEO AWARD WINNER BEHAR ~ CAN CONFERENCE ~1992 -
alt.religion.scientology | Google Groups

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/browse_thread...

http://tinyurl.com/55ruus

Tigger


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Eldon  
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 Más opciones 7 nov, 14:37
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De: Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com>
Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:37:59 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 14:37
Asunto: Re: NY Times article on Scientology
On Nov 7, 8:26 pm, Tigger <Tiggerinthe...@webtv.net> wrote:

You did that? Well, thank you for your contribution to history.

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xenufrance  
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De: "xenufrance" <xenufra...@free.fr>
Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:54:20 +0100
Local: Sáb 7 nov 2009 15:54
Asunto: Re: NY Times article on Scientology

"Skipper" <skipSPAMpr...@yahoo.not> a écrit dans le message de news:
071120091122233436%skipSPAMpr...@yahoo.not...

yes, I had forgotten that excellent part of the scilumbags story.

No surprise most scientologists are really ashamed of their "religion" and
don't disclose their appartenance to anyone but other scilumbags.

What is the most suprising perhaps for me is this: how could these people
like Hubbard (or other liar gurus) see themselves in a mirror without
vomiting  in the basin?

r


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Lawrence  
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Grupos de noticias: alt.religion.scientology
De: Lawrence <lawrencetooma...@gmail.com>
Fecha: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 23:44:47 -0800 (PST)
Local: Dom 8 nov 2009 02:44
Asunto: Re: NY Times article on Scientology
On Nov 7, 9:52 am, Astrid <Astrid7777...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/nyregion/08critic.html

> In Scientology’s Door, but Not Much Farther by Ariel Kaminer

> This is a mildly sardonic puff piece where the writer tells her story
> of showing up at the NY Org, as if interested in becoming a member or
> finding out more information, and when they ask her what she does, she
> tells them "writer."

> She even ends up giving them her real name at one point, and they
> google her, and that's that. Makes me think, maybe she should have
> googled THEM, before writing this piece.

> Write comments folks!

Astrid:

Very well done on your Sherlock Holmes capabilities to find
newsworth literature.

An excellent insight in to how the church in New York
greets and handles new people these days.

Read "The Diary Of A Scientologist"

http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/

Lawrence


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