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In Scientology’s Door, but Not Much Farther by Ariel Kaminer
This is a mildly sardonic puff piece where the writer tells her story of showing up at the NY Org, as if interested in becoming a member or finding out more information, and when they ask her what she does, she tells them "writer."
She even ends up giving them her real name at one point, and they google her, and that's that. Makes me think, maybe she should have googled THEM, before writing this piece.
> In Scientology’s Door, but Not Much Farther by Ariel Kaminer
> This is a mildly sardonic puff piece where the writer tells her story > of showing up at the NY Org, as if interested in becoming a member or > finding out more information, and when they ask her what she does, she > tells them "writer."
> She even ends up giving them her real name at one point, and they > google her, and that's that. Makes me think, maybe she should have > googled THEM, before writing this piece.
> Write comments folks!
LOL and don't forget the advice she gives at the end.
Quote:
Perhaps the very nice people I met along the way will now dismiss me as one of the manipulators, in league with price-fixing bankers. Or perhaps they still view me as a potential member. For anyone who’s curious, the doors are open 9 a.m. to 10 p.m., seven days a week. Just be careful what you sign.
End of Quote
City Critic - Getting in the Door at the Church of Scientology, but Not Much Farther - NYTimes.com Email: citycri...@nytimes.com
Reminds me of my visit to a San Francisco mission in 1992 except I flew the dungeon before they could con me into buying a correspondence course, although I think they were about ready to kick this "obnoxio9us" Okie to the curb.
> In Scientology’s Door, but Not Much Farther by Ariel Kaminer
> This is a mildly sardonic puff piece where the writer tells her story > of showing up at the NY Org, as if interested in becoming a member or > finding out more information, and when they ask her what she does, she > tells them "writer."
> She even ends up giving them her real name at one point, and they > google her, and that's that. Makes me think, maybe she should have > googled THEM, before writing this piece.
> Write comments folks!
LOL! She was interrogated by John Carmichael. ----- While I pondered this paradox, the instructors exchanged a few whispers, then asked everyone to leave for a short break. As they exited, a man in a tan suit entered, and extended his hand to me. He was the president of the New York chapter. Apparently while I had been studying, someone had been Googling. He complimented me on my articles in The New York Times. And my adventure in the press-shy Church of Scientology came to a halt. -----
> In Scientology’s Door, but Not Much Farther by Ariel Kaminer
> This is a mildly sardonic puff piece where the writer tells her story > of showing up at the NY Org, as if interested in becoming a member or > finding out more information, and when they ask her what she does, she > tells them "writer."
> She even ends up giving them her real name at one point, and they > google her, and that's that. Makes me think, maybe she should have > googled THEM, before writing this piece.
> Write comments folks!
*sigh* It seems that every noob reporter, starting out on doing a story about Scientology, seems compelled to drop in on the local org in exactly the same way.
> > In Scientology’s Door, but Not Much Farther by Ariel Kaminer
> > This is a mildly sardonic puff piece where the writer tells her story > > of showing up at the NY Org, as if interested in becoming a member or > > finding out more information, and when they ask her what she does, she > > tells them "writer."
> > She even ends up giving them her real name at one point, and they > > google her, and that's that. Makes me think, maybe she should have > > googled THEM, before writing this piece.
> > Write comments folks!
> LOL! She was interrogated by John Carmichael. > ----- > While I pondered this paradox, the instructors exchanged a few > whispers, then asked everyone to leave for a short break. As they > exited, a man in a tan suit entered, and extended his hand to me. He > was the president of the New York chapter. Apparently while I had been > studying, someone had been Googling. He complimented me on my articles > in The New York Times. And my adventure in the press-shy Church of > Scientology came to a halt. > -----
> He smelled reporter!
They pretty much assumed that no good would come of a reporter taking courses. They may be correct!
> > > In Scientology’s Door, but Not Much Farther by Ariel Kaminer
> > > This is a mildly sardonic puff piece where the writer tells her story > > > of showing up at the NY Org, as if interested in becoming a member or > > > finding out more information, and when they ask her what she does, she > > > tells them "writer."
> > > She even ends up giving them her real name at one point, and they > > > google her, and that's that. Makes me think, maybe she should have > > > googled THEM, before writing this piece.
> > > Write comments folks!
> > LOL! She was interrogated by John Carmichael. > > ----- > > While I pondered this paradox, the instructors exchanged a few > > whispers, then asked everyone to leave for a short break. As they > > exited, a man in a tan suit entered, and extended his hand to me. He > > was the president of the New York chapter. Apparently while I had been > > studying, someone had been Googling. He complimented me on my articles > > in The New York Times. And my adventure in the press-shy Church of > > Scientology came to a halt. > > -----
> > He smelled reporter!
> They pretty much assumed that no good would come of a reporter taking > courses. They may be correct!
Yes they may. See my comment regarding Richard Behar.
> > > > In Scientology’s Door, but Not Much Farther by Ariel Kaminer
> > > > This is a mildly sardonic puff piece where the writer tells her story > > > > of showing up at the NY Org, as if interested in becoming a member or > > > > finding out more information, and when they ask her what she does, she > > > > tells them "writer."
> > > > She even ends up giving them her real name at one point, and they > > > > google her, and that's that. Makes me think, maybe she should have > > > > googled THEM, before writing this piece.
> > > > Write comments folks!
> > > LOL! She was interrogated by John Carmichael. > > > ----- > > > While I pondered this paradox, the instructors exchanged a few > > > whispers, then asked everyone to leave for a short break. As they > > > exited, a man in a tan suit entered, and extended his hand to me. He > > > was the president of the New York chapter. Apparently while I had been > > > studying, someone had been Googling. He complimented me on my articles > > > in The New York Times. And my adventure in the press-shy Church of > > > Scientology came to a halt. > > > -----
> > > He smelled reporter!
> > They pretty much assumed that no good would come of a reporter taking > > courses. They may be correct!
> Yes they may. See my comment regarding Richard Behar.
P.S. My comment is still in the moderation hopper, but I could see it, so here it is:
No surprise. Scientology has always been suspicious of journalists. In fact, back in 1991, they went after Richard Behar with a vengeance. See: www.lermanet.com/scientologyscandals/behar.htm
"Eldon" <EldonB...@aol.com> a écrit dans le message de news: e73117e6-7d2f-4bbe-9ab9-9a88565ae...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com... On Nov 7, 6:58 pm, Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > In Scientology’s Door, but Not Much Farther by Ariel Kaminer
> > > > This is a mildly sardonic puff piece where the writer tells her > > > > story > > > > of showing up at the NY Org, as if interested in becoming a member > > > > or > > > > finding out more information, and when they ask her what she does, > > > > she > > > > tells them "writer."
> > > > She even ends up giving them her real name at one point, and they > > > > google her, and that's that. Makes me think, maybe she should have > > > > googled THEM, before writing this piece.
> > > > Write comments folks!
> > > LOL! She was interrogated by John Carmichael. > > > ----- > > > While I pondered this paradox, the instructors exchanged a few > > > whispers, then asked everyone to leave for a short break. As they > > > exited, a man in a tan suit entered, and extended his hand to me. He > > > was the president of the New York chapter. Apparently while I had been > > > studying, someone had been Googling. He complimented me on my articles > > > in The New York Times. And my adventure in the press-shy Church of > > > Scientology came to a halt. > > > -----
> > > He smelled reporter!
> > They pretty much assumed that no good would come of a reporter taking > > courses. They may be correct!
> Yes they may. See my comment regarding Richard Behar.
P.S. My comment is still in the moderation hopper, but I could see it, so here it is:
No surprise. Scientology has always been suspicious of journalists. In fact, back in 1991, they went after Richard Behar with a vengeance. See: www.lermanet.com/scientologyscandals/behar.htm
<<<<<<I fear that if reporters would ever become "That", they'd become "PR Officers, -- that's the main word used in the crime cult for Paid Liars.
> *sigh* It seems that every noob reporter, starting out on doing a story > about Scientology, seems compelled to drop in on the local org in exactly > the same way.
It even mentions 'hints about its supernatural teachings', as if we didn't all have Avagrams framed on our walls claiming copyright on them.
<xenufra...@free.fr> wrote: > "Eldon" <EldonB...@aol.com> a écrit dans le message de news: > e73117e6-7d2f-4bbe-9ab9-9a88565ae...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com... > On Nov 7, 6:58 pm, Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com> wrote: > > On Nov 7, 6:54 pm, realpch <real...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > In Scientology’s Door, but Not Much Farther by Ariel Kaminer
> > > > > This is a mildly sardonic puff piece where the writer tells her > > > > > story > > > > > of showing up at the NY Org, as if interested in becoming a member > > > > > or > > > > > finding out more information, and when they ask her what she does, > > > > > she > > > > > tells them "writer."
> > > > > She even ends up giving them her real name at one point, and they > > > > > google her, and that's that. Makes me think, maybe she should have > > > > > googled THEM, before writing this piece.
> > > > > Write comments folks!
> > > > LOL! She was interrogated by John Carmichael. > > > > ----- > > > > While I pondered this paradox, the instructors exchanged a few > > > > whispers, then asked everyone to leave for a short break. As they > > > > exited, a man in a tan suit entered, and extended his hand to me. He > > > > was the president of the New York chapter. Apparently while I had been > > > > studying, someone had been Googling. He complimented me on my articles > > > > in The New York Times. And my adventure in the press-shy Church of > > > > Scientology came to a halt. > > > > -----
> > > > He smelled reporter!
> > > They pretty much assumed that no good would come of a reporter taking > > > courses. They may be correct!
> > Yes they may. See my comment regarding Richard Behar.
> P.S. My comment is still in the moderation hopper, but I could see it, > so here it is:
> No surprise. Scientology has always been suspicious of journalists. In > fact, back in 1991, they went after Richard Behar with a vengeance. > See: > www.lermanet.com/scientologyscandals/behar.htm
> <<<<<<I fear that if reporters would ever become "That", they'd become "PR > Officers, -- that's the main word used in the crime cult for Paid Liars.
> r
That's probably because of that time when Elwrong produced the first "clear" onstage at the Shrine Auditorium in L.A. back in Dianetic$ days and a reporter asked the woman who supposed had perfect recall what color tie Elwrong was wearing (he was out of sight) and she couldn't.
Suspicious, nothing, afraid of being found out. They even played on that when Elwrong propagated that story of Tony Hitchman being a journalist interviewing him on camera (they showed that thing forever in introductory lectures), when all along that scumbag Hitchman (who skipped out to South Africa when Reed Slatkin got busted) was on Elwrong's payroll.
> > > > > In Scientology’s Door, but Not Much Farther by Ariel Kaminer
> > > > > This is a mildly sardonic puff piece where the writer tells her story > > > > > of showing up at the NY Org, as if interested in becoming a member or > > > > > finding out more information, and when they ask her what she does, she > > > > > tells them "writer."
> > > > > She even ends up giving them her real name at one point, and they > > > > > google her, and that's that. Makes me think, maybe she should have > > > > > googled THEM, before writing this piece.
> > > > > Write comments folks!
> > > > LOL! She was interrogated by John Carmichael. > > > > ----- > > > > While I pondered this paradox, the instructors exchanged a few > > > > whispers, then asked everyone to leave for a short break. As they > > > > exited, a man in a tan suit entered, and extended his hand to me. He > > > > was the president of the New York chapter. Apparently while I had been > > > > studying, someone had been Googling. He complimented me on my articles > > > > in The New York Times. And my adventure in the press-shy Church of > > > > Scientology came to a halt. > > > > -----
> > > > He smelled reporter!
> > > They pretty much assumed that no good would come of a reporter taking > > > courses. They may be correct!
> > Yes they may. See my comment regarding Richard Behar.
> P.S. My comment is still in the moderation hopper, but I could see it, > so here it is:
> No surprise. Scientology has always been suspicious of journalists. In > fact, back in 1991, they went after Richard Behar with a vengeance. > See:www.lermanet.com/scientologyscandals/behar.htm- Hide quoted text -
I met Richard Behar at the 1992 CAN Conference and heard him give that speech. Good thing I transferred it from a video to a cassette and typed and posted it to a.r.s. so Arnaldo could web it, eh?
LEO AWARD WINNER BEHAR ~ CAN CONFERENCE ~1992 - alt.religion.scientology | Google Groups
> > > > > > In Scientology’s Door, but Not Much Farther by Ariel Kaminer
> > > > > > This is a mildly sardonic puff piece where the writer tells her story > > > > > > of showing up at the NY Org, as if interested in becoming a member or > > > > > > finding out more information, and when they ask her what she does, she > > > > > > tells them "writer."
> > > > > > She even ends up giving them her real name at one point, and they > > > > > > google her, and that's that. Makes me think, maybe she should have > > > > > > googled THEM, before writing this piece.
> > > > > > Write comments folks!
> > > > > LOL! She was interrogated by John Carmichael. > > > > > ----- > > > > > While I pondered this paradox, the instructors exchanged a few > > > > > whispers, then asked everyone to leave for a short break. As they > > > > > exited, a man in a tan suit entered, and extended his hand to me. He > > > > > was the president of the New York chapter. Apparently while I had been > > > > > studying, someone had been Googling. He complimented me on my articles > > > > > in The New York Times. And my adventure in the press-shy Church of > > > > > Scientology came to a halt. > > > > > -----
> > > > > He smelled reporter!
> > > > They pretty much assumed that no good would come of a reporter taking > > > > courses. They may be correct!
> > > Yes they may. See my comment regarding Richard Behar.
> > P.S. My comment is still in the moderation hopper, but I could see it, > > so here it is:
> > No surprise. Scientology has always been suspicious of journalists. In > > fact, back in 1991, they went after Richard Behar with a vengeance. > > See:www.lermanet.com/scientologyscandals/behar.htm-Hide quoted text -
> I met Richard Behar at the 1992 CAN Conference and heard him give that > speech. > Good thing I transferred it from a video to a cassette and typed and > posted it to a.r.s. so Arnaldo could web it, eh?
> > LEO AWARD WINNER BEHAR ~ CAN CONFERENCE ~1992 - > alt.religion.scientology | Google Groups
> In article <4af5baef$0$2751$426a7...@news.free.fr>, xenufrance > <xenufra...@free.fr> wrote:
>> "Eldon" <EldonB...@aol.com> a écrit dans le message de news: >> e73117e6-7d2f-4bbe-9ab9-9a88565ae...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com... >> On Nov 7, 6:58 pm, Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com> wrote: >> > On Nov 7, 6:54 pm, realpch <real...@aol.com> wrote:
>> <<<<<<I fear that if reporters would ever become "That", they'd become >> "PR >> Officers, -- that's the main word used in the crime cult for Paid Liars.
>> r
> That's probably because of that time when Elwrong produced the first > "clear" onstage at the Shrine Auditorium in L.A. back in Dianetic$ days > and a reporter asked the woman who supposed had perfect recall what > color tie Elwrong was wearing (he was out of sight) and she couldn't.
> Suspicious, nothing, afraid of being found out. They even played on > that when Elwrong propagated that story of Tony Hitchman being a > journalist interviewing him on camera (they showed that thing forever > in introductory lectures), when all along that scumbag Hitchman (who > skipped out to South Africa when Reed Slatkin got busted) was on > Elwrong's payroll.
yes, I had forgotten that excellent part of the scilumbags story.
No surprise most scientologists are really ashamed of their "religion" and don't disclose their appartenance to anyone but other scilumbags.
What is the most suprising perhaps for me is this: how could these people like Hubbard (or other liar gurus) see themselves in a mirror without vomiting in the basin?
> In Scientology’s Door, but Not Much Farther by Ariel Kaminer
> This is a mildly sardonic puff piece where the writer tells her story > of showing up at the NY Org, as if interested in becoming a member or > finding out more information, and when they ask her what she does, she > tells them "writer."
> She even ends up giving them her real name at one point, and they > google her, and that's that. Makes me think, maybe she should have > googled THEM, before writing this piece.
> Write comments folks!
Astrid:
Very well done on your Sherlock Holmes capabilities to find newsworth literature.
An excellent insight in to how the church in New York greets and handles new people these days.